To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. He used 3 spell slots in the battle, afterwards he healed two of the party members with a cure wounds each. Divine smite drop on paladin just before damage is rolled. So this gives us a 2d8 for 1st lvl slot, 3d8 for 2nd, 4d8 for 3rd, 5d8 for 4th, and 5d8 for 5th. If as a level 5 paladin you attack twice, then you can apply a divine smite to each of those attacks after youve confirmed hits, but you cannot do multiple divine smites on a single attack. For example, if a paladin s smite uses a spell slot, does that mean that theyre accessing the weave to produce the effect.
We spent too much game time friday night debating whether a paladin could smite in an antimagic field. Make this into a token action or add a button in your attack for it. I downloaded the xml again and there was no problem. Whenever you hit a creature with a melee weapon, the creature takes an extra 1d8 radiant damage. Starting at 2nd level, when you hit a creature with a melee weapon attack, you can expend one spell slot to deal radiant damage to the target, in addition to the weapons damage. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. It will first off shut down one of the most threatening mechanics out there, and thats hit point maximum reduction. Paladins do burst damage really well, and its not a flaw in the system. You can choose to forfeit the damage granted by your divine smite and improved divine. Divine smite is better because it is open to multiclass shenanigans while eldritch smite is not. The extra damage is a variable amount, to a maximum of 5d8. A webbased version of the 5th edition srd system reference document toggle navigation 5th edition srd. And if you rolled a critical, then you double that. All of a paladins smite spells require a bonus action to cast and.
A lot of paladins lean on divine smite pretty hard through their entire career. Outside of capitalizing on a 20, this shouldnt be a problem from a damage perspective. Back in 2018, i made a sorcadin character build video combining devotion paladin and shadow sorcerer with a standard dip in fighter to spice things up. Dec 15, 2016 this oath allows divine smite to be used on ranged attacks, with other.
This week i give you my perspective on 5th editions divine smite, how it has changed, and how you can use it to kill a balor in two hits. I mean the spell i usauly compare it to, cure wounds, only heals 1d8 while divine smite deals 2d8. Also to note on gestalt builds2 levels of paladin of slaughter for divine grace is nice. Not once did i feel like a sidekick, because that was his moment in the limelight. It seems like youve both said it does and does not work. The combination of paladin s divine smite and warlocks eldritch smite with sorcerers flexible spellcasting features results in a build that is in a league of its own the ultimate smiter, you. The description of the paladin s smite class feature contains this sentence. Like others have said, you can use a regular divine smite on any attack that you hit at the expense of a spell slot. Why does improved divine smite work with a thrown dagger, but divine smite does not.
Though you might never get here, as this is a 4th level spell, but if you can make it to th level as a paladin, youll get one of the best healing spells in the game. For the second question, assuming you are using divine smite and not one of the smite spells, it is one smite per attack. A paladin is like a clad in plate protective layer that sparkles in the daylight in spite of the residue and grime of long travel, a human sets out her sword and shield and places her hands on a mortally injured mano divine brilliance sparkles from her hands, the mans injuries weave shut, and his eyes open wide with wonder. The paladin s divine smite feature description says. For divine smite itself, its using its maximum slot, for 5d8, using a 4th level spell slot theoretically, you can use a higher spell slot, but with no benefit. There are standard spell sheets available for downloading and printing. Combat ensues, our beloved paladin cast thunderous smite and used the divine smite ability twice. Does a divine smite cast at 5th level do the same damage as divine.
Your holy symbol is a spellcasting focus for paladin spells. The second one would boost your ranged attack so much that it makes your charisma to weapon attack rolls quite redundand. One of the great deficiencies of 5e is that it doesnt explain why distinctions like this exist, which leaves the dm in the position of ignoring the rule or making up some bogus rationalization to support the opaque rule. So i am a level 5 paladin, oath or redemption, and i like to use divine smite on high level bosses a lot. Divine smite only requires you to hit with a melee weapon attack.
Dungeons demystified help me settle a rules dispute with my. I think streamlining all the spell smites to work like divine smite is interesting. In fact, if he just used divine smite for two rounds, the total damage he. Does divine smite works with unarmed attacks andor. Divine smite starting at 2nd level, when you hit a creature with a melee weapon attack, you can expend one spell slot to deal radiant damage to the target, in addition to the weapons damage. Most of these spells slots will be reserved for the good ol divine smite due to its propensity for damage and the ability to cast after hit and stack with crits. I had a player with a radiant maul do a smite crit on a skeletal dragon.
Can you stack a paladin smite spell with divine smite. You can use a holy symbol as a spellcasting focus for your paladin spells. Whatever their origin and their mission, paladins are united by their oaths to stand against the forces of evil. Can a paladin use a divine smite with a thrown weapon in d. Browse other questions tagged dnd 5e paladin or ask your own question. You can assign it to a campaign if you create or join one, for your dm and other players to see. The extra damage is 2d8 for a 1stlevel spell slot, plus 1d8 for each spell. If you also use your divine smite with an attack, you add this damage to the extra damage of your divine smite. My convoluted solution is to remove the smite spells from the paladin spell list and use them as class features for divine smite.
You can remove concentration, but limit them to only 1 active smite at a time. Starting at 2nd level when you hit a creature with a melee weapon attack, you can expend one spell slot to deal radiant damage to the target, in addition to the weapons damage. Without even multiclassing paladins get up to 5th level spell slots but apparently there is. Anyways, a sorcadins tanking abilities rely on the use of spells like shield and mirror image since the class chassis doesnt offer much. Products all arrived in good time and looked excellent. Divine smite when playing a paladin, you will notice that you often will be holding on to your meager spell slots. Whips are a reach and finesse weapon, we can divine smite with reach, however polearm master paladin does that better. I set it up to max out at 5d8 per the rules even if you are smiting a fiend with a 5th lvl slot. The maximum is on all the extra radiant damage that divine smite adds to your normal weapon damage, necessarily including the first 2d8 emphasis mine. By 11th level, you are so suffused with righteous might that all your melee weapon strikes carry divine power with them. The extra damage is 2d8 for a 1stlevel spell slot, plus 1d8 for each spell level higher than 1st, to a maximum of 5d8.
Paladin divine smite vs divine favour so im trying to do the math and detemine if spending a spell slot on divine favour is ever a better investment than smiting with the slot. Cure wounds2, bless, thunderous smite, second level. Because paladins should always divine smite on a crit for the most part. At 4th level, and at every three levels thereafter, the paladin may smite evil.
It is too easy to dip for two levels of paladin and end up with plenty of slots to divine smite the snot out of things. Does allowing a paladin access to archery fighting style, and allowing divine smite. One thing that has been brought to question is the interaction between the fighting style great weapon fighting and the paladin ability divine smite first part of the question. Effects the complete paladin package fantasy grounds. From playing a paladin and dming for a couple paladins, ive only ever seen this once. Dungeons demystified how is the damage cap on divine smite. If a player uses divine smite on a creature, and unbeknownst to them, that creature is a fiend or undead, does the character learn this. Ive managed to clean most of it up, but our paladin is having trouble. Scourge weapon 5e oct 21, 2017 ive played alongside a paladin in 5e and watched him divine smite left and right. A comprehensive list of all official spells for fifth edition. Knights, crusaders, and lawbringers, paladins seek not just to spread divine justice. Lvl 5 oath of vengeance paladin s divine smite 5d8 and branding smite 2d6 lvl 8 war domain clerics adds more spells slots for more divine smites and its divine strike 1d8. As a paladin, you gain the following class features.
I always thought the divine smite feature was a little to over powered. Adrenaline surge, fitting short rests into combat to fix bossesshort rest classes. If you also use your divine smite with an attack, you add this damage to the extra damage of your divine. As in, cast wrathful smite, hit, then use divine smite on same atk. Ive found in my admittedly limited 5e experience that dropping a smite on a crit is one of the paladin s best feellikeabadass moments. To untangle this, we must remember that rules in 5th edition are written. But with this build, we are cut off from the paladin at an early level, so we will never be able to cast it at a higher level spell slot. Dan, a question from a design perspective, if i may. Removing concentration would help make these spells more viable, but i suspect that many players would still just use regular smite.
Ive played alongside a paladin in 5e and watched him divine smite left and right. Divine smite enamel pin paladin dungeons and dragons enamel. Some specific smite spells on the paladin spell list e. I was curious about why the paladin class doesnt have the archery fighting style, and why smite only works with melee weapons, so i posed the question to mike mearls on twitter whether that was flavor or game balance. I just finished working on a great divine smite macro for all you paladins out there.
Im a paladin2fighter2 so only two spell slots to work with. Does allowing a paladin access to archery fighting style, and allowing divine smite to function with ranged attacks, break anything. At 2nd level, when you hit a creature with a melee weapon attack, you. On a related note, myself and a large group online have been trying to figure out whether divine smite works with unarmed attacks andor natural weapons. If a paladin wants a bunch more smites, he becomes a bard or a. Divine smite s damage is extra damage on the same attack, so it can kill the zombie. You have grown so accustomed to divine power flowing through you that you can shape its power to greater degrees.
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